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Actual Action - Project a Bad Idea?

Fri Nov 6, 2009, 4:47 PM
So I did one of the things I said I was going to do. It's been a while! I even made a good go of a second thing based on the works of ~bKokoska. I didn't look at any of his work immediately prior to starting the painting. Hell, I wasn't even going to try even though I had the thought in my head, but when I started to paint, it all just went that way. I thought it was looking pretty well until I stopped painting for the night and looked at his work. I have to get a good deal more complex if it's to be a faithful mimicry. It's hard to tell what specific mediums he uses in his work, but mine will be gouache and Carandache crayons. I stopped painting when I felt like I was rushing myself and making mistakes. I tend to get impatient while painting some of the time. I think it's because I'm used to finishing a something in one round. I don't take any breaks when I draw or paint, so I can only go for so long in one session. I try to stretch it as far as I can, because who knows when I'll want to paint again. I've been in the mood to work on things lately though. I'm not completely sure why, but it's a welcome return for me.

I am now antsy to mess around with Illustrator again.


*** So I sent a note to ~bKokoska about the little project I'm working on to see if he would be okay with it. He isn't. So I won't be completing the painting nor posting it. I suppose this idea strikes a little too close to "ripoff" for some people. I don't feel the same way though. Perhaps I didn't explain properly. Isn't there value in an exploration of styles? That quote about no true originality except for hiding your sources comes to mind. It's like all those paintings that use squares and rectangles. I've seen tons of people using that idea.

Well anyway. is there anybody that thinks this was a bad idea from the start? I could just as easily do my own stuff.

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:iconjarafrica:
No, I don't think that it's a bad idea at all. Back in the day, when I was drawing regularly, I was essentially ripping off John Wayshak to the best of my ability. But from that I found a new direction to go.

I can't really see why he would tell you he isn't okay with that though.

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:icon13shadesofblack:
I figure that he's probably seen too many ripoffs in his day, or he misunderstood the whole idea. Thanks for replying. I'm glad someone else understands what I mean.

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:iconjarafrica:
No problem. Have you thought about taking the painting you started and then tweaking it and changing things around? It'd be cool to see the result.

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:icon13shadesofblack:
It crossed my mind briefly, but I've already disposed of it. I'd rather forget about it and move on. Which I sort of already did because I just finished a new painting I'm going to submit. To be honest though, I don't know if I could have adequately changed the unfinished painting as I was a good 3 quarters of the way through it.

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:iconfailur3:
I wouldn't say that the whole deal is a bad idea at all. People borrow and use elements of one another's styles all over the place, deliberately and not so much. If you can't handle someone else copying your work (even in the most respectful of ways), you probably shouldn't be showing it to anyone. ever.

And in any case, pretty much every famous or important painter ever learned a great deal from doing master copies. It can be an extremely important part of learning to attempt to copy the work of those you admire.

All that said, doing a master copy for display is different idea entirely than doing one for private learning. It's different still than attempting work in the style of another artist.

Frankly, I think the artist in question has no claim to work done in their style, that's free to all who can.
:icon13shadesofblack:
I agree with that, but I thought I'd at least notify him as to what I was attempting. Since he wasn't okay with it, I didn't want to go against that.

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:iconfailur3:
And that's nice of you, and probably the right thing to do with the ideal of kindness.

still though... grumble grumble
:icontrash60:
I'd like to see your take on his stuff. Hell, I'd like to see all my favorite artists' creating something with his style. I'll take that a step or two further and motion the idea for everyone to start borrowing and mimicking and all the while evolving.
We get stuck in our own little stylistic ruts and feel like we've created something so damned unique when, really, everything has been done before and we're just piecing together all the little parts of everything that has managed to dig itself into our brains, like shrapnel almost.

I think its better if all of us paint slatherers didn't take ourselves and our smearings too seriously, unless we want to being doing the exact same things over and over again for the rest of our lives.

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:icon13shadesofblack:
Yeah, that's pretty much how I feel about it, I just want to respect the artist's wishes. I'll be doing some more stuff soon.

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